25 March 2017
The language issue does not affect all of Canada to the same extent - the readers out in Western Canada are not as worried as the readers in Eastern Canada (Quebec, New Brunswick, Ontario, PEI & Newfoundland). So I try to include other items when I circulate to the whole group. The issue of M-103 affects all of Canada so maybe you might want to read about that?
I guess by now you know that this motion has passed (201 MPs voted in favour of the motion, and 91 MPs voted against it.)
Faith Goldy of The Rebel reports:
Our readers have sent their comments:
Dear Mr. Hehr
I concur with your evaluation that the rise in hate crimes against Muslims must be stopped. However, the wording of the bill (as it is being presented to us in the media) is poorly thought out, although targeting hate against Muslims, it would leave, if worded in that form, the definition of “islamophobia” open to wide interpretation, and indeed would favour one religion only. This is being reported as being a part of the bill, and I suspect that people think it will be included at some point, then passed using the Liberal majority.
One must look at all aspects of the bill before making it law, or risk having an otherwise worthwhile bill fail over one point of contention. In its present form, with the word Islamophobia present, it would have the potential of empowering people of Muslim faith who do not view our society as fair and equal, or want a Sharia governed society, an opportunity to use the laws of Canada to punish those people with whom they simply disagree, citing that those people are displaying “islamophobia” as THEY would define it or could define to a sympathetic judge, thereby putting that targeted person through a living hell, and cowing others that simply do not agree. If that term is not included in the bill, then that bill, I think, is a good idea; if it is included, then the motion must be re-written to omit that reference.
Also, as I am sure you know, Islamophobia is fear of Islam, a human fear which cannot be a crime any more than fear of any other religion. Acting with violence or bigotry against those of other religions, however, should be a crime, and of course, using violence is Hatred of Muslims should be a crime, or at the very least strongly disapproved of in Canadian society, same as hatred of Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus, and all people because of their religion.
This legislation must pertain to ALL religions, not just one. The MP who put forth the motion to include that word in the bill should be made aware of this fact.
Thanks for your time,
So your hateful, fascist motion has passed. You may be congratulating yourselves, but you must know that Canadians will never obey this ridiculous attempt to censor and silence us.
Canadians have enjoyed Freedom of Speech since the founding of this country and NO ONE can take it away without giving us a say in the matter.
Any attempt to enforce this ridiculous motion would be nothing short of F A S C I S M and will be clearly recognized as such.
You may have been successful if you had included ALL religions, but singling out one for special attention and preferred treatment is simply laughable.
Something good will come of this, though Everything muslims do will now be under a finely-tuned microscope. There will be no tolerance in Canada for the bad behaviour we see exhibited in other parts of the world. The videos are everywhere, making this a proven, demonstrable fact and nothing you can do can change that. We witnessed it just yesterday and will no doubt witness it again tomorrow.
Canadians will now wake up and realize the dangers facing them so that what’s happened in Europe can’t happen here.
That’s a good thing, and for that I thank you.
Perhaps you should go back to Pakistan where this kind of thing is commonplace because it never will be here.
Canada is a civilized country and will remain a civilized country in spite of the bad immigration policies of the current administration.
Subject: French Intimidation of Mayor Watson
March 24, 2017
Am I saying the obvious when I say that the French in Quebec are shameless? This is not true of ALL French people (most are probably very nice people but they're listening to a lot of very greedy, very self-absorbed people who think that the French language & culture must be promoted, preserved & protected at ALL costs). Being the minority that P.E. Trudeau has chosen to empower in the 1982 Constitution, they are using that power to bully themselves into a dominant position. Quebec is broke & will remain broke because of the Socialist mindset in that province - their total dependence on the Equalization policy enables them to continue living off the other provinces while demanding to be in charge. When the country runs out of the ability to borrow, the taxpayers can always be counted on to dig deeper into their pockets. If you haven't heard of the "BAIL IN" policy, you should find out about it - this is how bankrupt governments solve their problems.
The battleground currently is in Ottawa where Mayor Watson is facing a huge attempt by the French activists to intimidate him into capitulating to their demands. Just read the Google translated article below & tell me why we have NO English-speaking leader on the side of the councillors who said, "NO"? Politicians depend on votes so please contact your councillor & let him/her know how you feel. If you need the contact information of your councillor, please contact me.
OTTAWA - 20 years after the big rally to save Montfort Hospital, thousands of Franco-Ontarians gathered to remember and celebrate their victory. The debate surrounding the bilingual status of the City of Ottawa was repeatedly invited at the heart of the event.
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In a moment of great emotion, Gisele Lalonde, a true face of the struggle against the closure of the hospital, went up on stage accompanied by lawyer Me Ronald Caza and Michelle de Courville Nicol. For long minutes, she waved the Franco-Ontarian flag under the applause of a grateful crowd.
"You have given so much. You can be proud, you can say mission accomplished! The next generation is ready to take your torch, "councilor Mathieu Fleury said, for the lady of the Francophonie in Ontario.
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson spoke to pay tribute to Franco-Ontarians fighting to save the hospital. But some of the crowd did not hear it that way. "Bilingual Ottawa! Ottawa bilingual! Ottawa bilingual! ", Shouted for several minutes a few dozen angry spectators.
#ONfr has tried to get his reaction, following this cold reception of a part of the public.Mayor Watson categorically refused to answer our questions. He left the show in a flash, right from the first musical issue.
If Gisèle Lalonde warmly supports the movement in favor of a bilingual capital, she feels that the time may be wrong.
"I thought it was valuable here, because it still came with us to celebrate," she said in an interview with #ONfr . "Ottawa should be bilingual, that's for sure! In fact, the province should be bilingual, "she added.
Councilor Mathieu Fleury said he understood the anger of some citizens. "Do not judge, people have the right to emotion. Obviously, it is sensitive. We did it with Montfort. We built a momentum, we will get there (with Ottawa city bilingual), "he argued.
According to him, convincing Anglophone citizens of the Capital more than ever. "In the francophone community, we are united. We must seek our support in the English-speaking community, "he insisted.
A show full of emotions
For nearly three hours, many Franco-Ontarian artists took the stage intoning hearts of the songs known in the province's French-language repertoire.
Damien Robitaille, Chuck Labelle, Gabrielle Goulet, Serge Monette, Moonfruits, Yao and many others. Zachary Richard, strong voice of the Francophonie, came to interpret a song he dedicated to Gisèle Lalonde.
CELEBRATING THE MONTFORT?
As for celebrating the victory in saving the Montfort Hospital 20 years ago, it was done at great expense to the taxpayers of Ontario. The hospital was slated for closure because it was run so inefficiently. The French activists saved the hospital, at a cost of $300 Million & turned it into a bilingual (mostly French) hospital. The worst of the deal is that we are serving a lot of patients from Quebec because we cannot turn them away. The Emergency facility is filled with Quebecers because medical services are so poor in Quebec. There was an attempt to stop the flood of Quebecers who are not emergency-type patients & our own, legitimate tax-payers are forced to wait for hours while Quebec patients are served.
Egan: Montfort tries PR on ER as it worries about growing tide of Quebec patients
Published on: September 11, 2014 | Last Updated: September 11, 2014 4:00 PM EDT
The Montfort has just launched an outreach campaign that aims to discourage certain Quebec patients from showing up in the emergency department on Montreal Road. Pat McGrath / Ottawa Citizen
In 2009, about nine per cent of all patients to the Montfort Hospital’s emergency department were from West Quebec.
Today, the figure is 18 per cent, or almost one in five.
The financial consequences are many. In 2008, there were 15,555 individuals from the Outaouais who sought treatment at the Montfort (or more than 40 a day) at a cost of $6 million to the Quebec health-care plan.
In 2012, the number of Montfort-bound patients had risen to 18,573 and the cost soared to $15 million. And this at time when Montfort is doing its best to meet care standards set by Ontario’s Ministry of Health.
What to do?
The Montfort has just launched an outreach campaign that aims to discourage certain Quebec patients from showing up in the emergency department on Montreal Road.
A new brochure reminds patients with “chronic symptoms” that care is best provided by a family physician or a walk-in clinic in greater Gatineau.
“Emergency room physicians at Hôpital Montfort cannot ensure continuity of care for patients insured by the Régie de l’assurance maladie du Québec,” reads the brochure, with an abundance of bold type.
Those with a Quebec health card will still be treated but directed for followup to a family physician or clinic in Quebec.
The hospital is walking a fine line, as hospital president Dr. Bernard Leduc explained.
It is not turning Quebec patients away, nor is it sending them to the back of the bus. The hospital, he said, only wants to manage the patient’s expectations and prevent frustration. The brochure also points out that Ontario physicians have no “special privileges” to order diagnostic tests in Quebec or do referrals to specialists across the river.
From experience, the Montfort knows that Outaouais patients with chronic conditions — perhaps waiting for knee or hip replacements — will sometimes try an Ontario hospital as a way to more quickly connect with a specialist.
“Because access in some specialties is not easy in Quebec, they’ll come because they’ve been waiting long on a waiting list to see a specialist and they think when they come to Hôpital Montfort to emergency, they’ll either have better access or better access than if they just wait in the Quebec system,” Leduc said.
The hospital is taking steps now, he said, because the number of Quebec patients visiting the francophone hospital has grown so much.
Montfort is, in a way, a victim of its own success. After being on death row during the 1990s, it won successive court battles and emerged even stronger. A $300-million expansion was opened in 2010, doubling floor space.
Further enhancements since then have lifted the emergency department response times from the bottom of the list among Ontario hospitals. So, ergo, francophones from anywhere are flocking there.
It is a politically infused debate.
The Canada Health Act requires that health coverage be “portable” within provinces, but the concept has many shadings.
“The portability criterion of the Canada Health Act,” says Health Canada, “requires that the provinces and territories extend medically necessary hospital and physician coverage to their eligible residents during temporary absences from the province or territory.”
Statistics provided by the Régie, Quebec’s equivalent to OHIP, show how deeply the Outaouais relies on specialized health care in Ontario.
From 2008 to 2012, Quebec has sent $408 million to seven Ottawa hospitals. In 2012, the Ottawa Hospital led the way with 21,055 Outaouais patients, at a cost of $33.4 million. The Children’s Hospital of Eastern Ontario was next, with 19,244 patients and $24.6 million in transferred billing.
Just to illustrate the impact of location and language on the cross-border migration, Queensway-Carleton Hospital in Ottawa’s west end only had 980 Quebec patients that year, and $639,136 in transferred fees.
Leduc said the brochure, which was launched this week, is not driven by financial considerations — the Quebec system generally pays physicians less — or to discourage so-called “doctor shopping” by Outaouais patients stuck on long waiting lists.
“We’re not changing what we’re doing,” he said. “We’re not turning people around when they arrive in our emergency department.”
The brochure closes with a statement that reads like a warning, from a Quebec government website: “Generally speaking, the Régie does not reimburse the full cost of health care services received outside Québec and certain services are not covered by the Health Insurance Plan at all.”
Well, one can’t fault Montfort for trying. And Leduc is probably too polite or hand-tied to say it out-loud: the present course is unsustainable.
If the patient’s fever doesn’t come down, something is going to burst.
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BY THE NUMBERS
17 Per cent of Montfort Hospital ER patients from Quebec in 2012-13
700 Number of Quebec mothers giving birth at Montfort in 2013
5,955 ER visits from Quebec patients to Ottawa Hospital in 2009
8,095 ER visits from Quebec patients to Ottawa Hospital in 2013
93 Total annual payments, in millions of dollars, from Quebec to seven Ottawa hospitals in 2012
184 No. of Quebec patients at the Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre in 2012
19,244 No. of Quebec patients at CHEO in 2012
About 100,000 Quebec patients seek care in all of Ontario each year.
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